Why do people think secular government means athiest government? It just means to not incorporate any belief crap in government; religion stays in your church.
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/ 13 years ago
People are idiots, that's why.
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/ 13 years ago
This is an interesting fact.
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/ 13 years ago
Theists conveniently ignore this fact. But they have ignored facts for thousands of years. So what's one more? For that matter, what's one more lie out of all the ones they have told?
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/ 12 years ago
I like the fact that the "under God" is in there because it implies that the state is not all powerful. The declaration of independence points out that we are endowed by our creator, (whether you believe in God or not) and that highlights the fact that our rights are not allowed to us by the government. I am definitely for a secular government but I don't want the line removed.
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Anonymous
/ 12 years ago
That doesn't make any sense..
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/ 12 years ago
It should be under god as 95% of Americans have some religious feelings. It is not promoting a certain god at all. If your an atheist then just keep your mouth's shut. Very rarely do you see religious groups attacking atheists but its as if its their job to ruin everyones elses thoughts.
An atheist group at my college had a jar for donations "To Send an Atheist to Church!" Why??
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/ 12 years ago
I would just like to say that the people who believe in God have every right to so, but the fact is, the people that don't or the people that don't want their children raised with that kind of thing like I do, believe that it shouldn't say "In God." I for one will let my children decide what to believe and I would very much appreciate it if the schools and the government didn't seem to be forcing religion down my child's throat.
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/ 12 years ago
i'll force more than that down your child's throat
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/ 12 years ago
You, are a disgusting pervert.
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/ 12 years ago
Get your facts straight dumbass, one in six Americans have no religious affiliation at all.
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/ 12 years ago
Unfortunately it was not just a pinko scare. It has been pretty much proven that there were plenty of communists infiltrating the US government.
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/ 13 years ago
Sigh... but it WAS added, and until it's removed (which is just as easy/hard as adding it was), that's the pledge. Do it "right", or don't do it at all.
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/ 13 years ago
By omitting the "god" part, those that say it are changing it. By saying it "right", one is conceding to the theocratic ideals that put it there in the first place.
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/ 13 years ago
That's simply not true. The Pledge of Allegiance is defined by law. Changing it requires legislation. Saying it "right" is called obeying the law.
There are a few laws I don't believe in. It doesn't make me a hero or an intellect to disobey them.
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/ 13 years ago
It's a stupid law that arguably violates the "shall not make any law respecting the establishment of religion" clause of the 1st amendment. Also I exercise my 1st amendment right to freedom of speech to defy it.
Furthermore, putting something like this to legislation is bureaucratic bull that wastes government resources along with all the rest of the frivolous lawmaking that makes up 90% of all legislation.
It's well withing my legal rights to say the pledge of allegiance "wrong" and I'm damn well going to do it. Mostly because it sticks the finger to the religitards that made and maintain it, but also as kind of a protest against religious influence in the government.
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/ 13 years ago
it's shooped!
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/ 13 years ago
"In 1954, Congress after a campaign by the Knights of Columbus, added the words, 'under God,' to the Pledge. The Pledge was now both a patriotic oath and a public prayer."
http://oldtimeislands.org/pledge/pledge.htm
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/ 13 years ago
What yearbook is that from?
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/ 13 years ago
1947....kinda the name of the article idiot
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/ 13 years ago
Yes, the 1947 yearbook. The only yearbook in the entire country printed in the year 1947. Asshole.
I would also like to know WHAT yearbook this is from
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/ 13 years ago
it doesnt matter where. its just saying that the god line wasnt used until the 50's.
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/ 13 years ago
I think what you mean is it doesn't matter to you. Obviously is matters to the person asking or s/he wouldn't have asked. Der?
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/ 13 years ago
America, the country that was founded on the freedom from religious persecution. WHAT!? YOU DONT LIKE HAVING THE WORD "GOD" IN THE PLEDGE!? YOU ARENT AMERICAN!!!
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/ 13 years ago
I think it's awesome we added under god, it means that big historic events can still have an impact on the pledge and that it's not set in stone.
Yeah, who cares about Americans that don't believe in god, right?
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/ 13 years ago
Cool!
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/ 13 years ago
I know the pledge didn't have the word. Obviously 1947 textbooks didn't have it. The awkward part is that this doesn't seem much like a textbook from 1947. I can't see full-page pictures where text would have sufficed.
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/ 13 years ago
Yearbook, not textbook.
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/ 13 years ago
Count the stars on the flag
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/ 13 years ago
Alaska and Hawaii weren't officially states until 1959.
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/ 13 years ago
Yes, that's what he's saying: that's it's authentically from 1947 as there are only 48 stars.
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/ 13 years ago
The first poster sounds a little butthurt. Why so butthurt?
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/ 13 years ago
religion is wrong
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/ 13 years ago
OP here. I kissed a dead dog.
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/ 13 years ago
I won't lie to you. But I'll pray for you :) Thank God I live in America and I can do so freely without being murdered by Atheist Governments :)
Why do people think secular government means athiest government? It just means to not incorporate any belief crap in government; religion stays in your church.
People are idiots, that's why.
This is an interesting fact.
Theists conveniently ignore this fact. But they have ignored facts for thousands of years. So what's one more? For that matter, what's one more lie out of all the ones they have told?
I like the fact that the "under God" is in there because it implies that the state is not all powerful. The declaration of independence points out that we are endowed by our creator, (whether you believe in God or not) and that highlights the fact that our rights are not allowed to us by the government. I am definitely for a secular government but I don't want the line removed.
That doesn't make any sense..
It should be under god as 95% of Americans have some religious feelings. It is not promoting a certain god at all. If your an atheist then just keep your mouth's shut. Very rarely do you see religious groups attacking atheists but its as if its their job to ruin everyones elses thoughts.
An atheist group at my college had a jar for donations "To Send an Atheist to Church!" Why??
I would just like to say that the people who believe in God have every right to so, but the fact is, the people that don't or the people that don't want their children raised with that kind of thing like I do, believe that it shouldn't say "In God." I for one will let my children decide what to believe and I would very much appreciate it if the schools and the government didn't seem to be forcing religion down my child's throat.
i'll force more than that down your child's throat
You, are a disgusting pervert.
Get your facts straight dumbass, one in six Americans have no religious affiliation at all.
Unfortunately it was not just a pinko scare. It has been pretty much proven that there were plenty of communists infiltrating the US government.
Sigh... but it WAS added, and until it's removed (which is just as easy/hard as adding it was), that's the pledge. Do it "right", or don't do it at all.
By omitting the "god" part, those that say it are changing it. By saying it "right", one is conceding to the theocratic ideals that put it there in the first place.
That's simply not true. The Pledge of Allegiance is defined by law. Changing it requires legislation. Saying it "right" is called obeying the law.
There are a few laws I don't believe in. It doesn't make me a hero or an intellect to disobey them.
It's a stupid law that arguably violates the "shall not make any law respecting the establishment of religion" clause of the 1st amendment. Also I exercise my 1st amendment right to freedom of speech to defy it.
Furthermore, putting something like this to legislation is bureaucratic bull that wastes government resources along with all the rest of the frivolous lawmaking that makes up 90% of all legislation.
It's well withing my legal rights to say the pledge of allegiance "wrong" and I'm damn well going to do it. Mostly because it sticks the finger to the religitards that made and maintain it, but also as kind of a protest against religious influence in the government.
it's shooped!
"In 1954, Congress after a campaign by the Knights of Columbus, added the words, 'under God,' to the Pledge. The Pledge was now both a patriotic oath and a public prayer."
http://oldtimeislands.org/pledge/pledge.htm
What yearbook is that from?
1947....kinda the name of the article idiot
Yes, the 1947 yearbook. The only yearbook in the entire country printed in the year 1947. Asshole.
I would also like to know WHAT yearbook this is from
it doesnt matter where. its just saying that the god line wasnt used until the 50's.
I think what you mean is it doesn't matter to you. Obviously is matters to the person asking or s/he wouldn't have asked. Der?
America, the country that was founded on the freedom from religious persecution. WHAT!? YOU DONT LIKE HAVING THE WORD "GOD" IN THE PLEDGE!? YOU ARENT AMERICAN!!!
I think it's awesome we added under god, it means that big historic events can still have an impact on the pledge and that it's not set in stone.
Yeah, who cares about Americans that don't believe in god, right?
Cool!
I know the pledge didn't have the word. Obviously 1947 textbooks didn't have it. The awkward part is that this doesn't seem much like a textbook from 1947. I can't see full-page pictures where text would have sufficed.
Yearbook, not textbook.
Count the stars on the flag
Alaska and Hawaii weren't officially states until 1959.
Yes, that's what he's saying: that's it's authentically from 1947 as there are only 48 stars.
The first poster sounds a little butthurt. Why so butthurt?
religion is wrong
OP here. I kissed a dead dog.
I won't lie to you. But I'll pray for you :) Thank God I live in America and I can do so freely without being murdered by Atheist Governments :)
Wtf are you talking about?